Swimming through a head full of ideas…

lightening ballHere is the idea I am pursuing. It’s going to take some real work, to actually lay down the research and sourcing.

We, meaning the Earth Mars and Saturn and assorted moons and satellites were captured by sol, due to its huge electrical field. But life started for us BEFORE we came into this solar system, and so did our memory of it.


Yet traditional mythologies remember a time of darkness stretching out into an unknown antiquity, a time in which the god Saturn, in all his manifestations, was small and weak, a mere shadow of the creative force he was destined to become. As mankind’s first remembered source of light, long before the coming of the sun, Saturn is said to have cast its pale light on a world without seasons and devoid of any means for humans to calculate time. Locked in a stationary post that is reported in mythology to have been at the northern celestial realms, the primordial Saturn seemingly drifted aimlessly through the skies on a chaotic heavenly milieu resembling the ebb and flow of a dark ocean. It is this state of affairs that is referred to in the opening verses of Genesis when “darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.” (Genesis 1: 1-2)purpledawn

Our conclusion here is that Saturn, this primordial source of a dim, timeless light, was a dully glowing sub-brown dwarf star of which Earth was one of its primary and original satellites; and that Earth was nestled close enough to its original host star to have been enveloped in Saturn’s opaque and warming plasma sheath. For humans alive on Earth at this time, there would have been no reference to the greater cosmos, and therefore no reference to any moving celestial object with which they could have marked the passage of time. This was a timeless age in which the dim blue/red-light spectrum emanating from Saturn would have cast a dark purple-hued glow over Earth’s surface. This, then, was mankind’s purple dawn of creation.



at 20:28 he talks about the womb of Saturn.  Excellent


We have a memory of a safe womb, when we were within the plasma shield of Saturn. From there we get pulled into the Sol system and Saturn gets turned off and goes quiescent. Then the dense wetness of the atmosphere gets dumped on us (possibly the deluge, or at least one of them) and we can finally see the heavens in all its glory… No wonder we have a fascination with the sky and the stars.


So I have two questions. Surely Niribu did exist, there were visual accounts of it, so where is it? Could Jupiter have been Niribu? There was record of a 1,000 year period when Jupiter changed its orbit and stood still in the sky.


“Go forth (i.e. cease) thy planet-(gazing), for Israel is free from planetary influence. What is thy calculation? Because Zedek (Jupiter) stands in the West? I will turn it back and place it in the East.” And thus it is written, Who hath raised up Zedek from the East? He hath summoned it for his sake (sc. for the sake of Abraham).

The celestial mechanics of the implied reversal of Jupiter’s apparent motion remains unsolved. Jupiter apparently changed the place of its rising points without a similar and simultaneous change by the Sun and all the planets and stars. It might seem that in order for Jupiter alone to be subject to a change, a reversal of orbital motion is required, an unlikely proposition from the point of view of celestial mechanics.

Earlier we asked in relation to Saturn’s great prominence, was not the Earth at some early period a satellite of that planet?; and we may ask again, with the ascendance of Jupiter, was the Earth not in the domain of this successor to the celestial throne? Theoretically, if the Earth were revolving around Jupiter, a reversal of our planet’s north and south geographical poles would cause Jupiter to appear to change the point of its rising.


          1. Shabbat 156b, I Epstein ed., (London, 1935). Cf. Isaiah 41:2. “Zedek also has the meaning of “righteousness” or “justice” and therefore the sentence is often rendered incorrectly as: “Who raised up the righteous (man) from the east.” Cf. Hommel, JSOR (1927).

From <http://www.varchive.org/itb/juprev.htm>


I could see how that would give way to legends about Niribu….

Just look at the axil tilt, and according to EU it also spit Venus out. The axial tilt comparisons for who is what part of the blended family that is our solar system are interesting, because it become a clue as to which planets are grouped together.axial tilt 2

Maybe Niribu came in and then got captured and over the centuries has become one of those planets out beyond Pluto that we know are there, or maybe it was Uranus with its wildly different axial tilt and orbit?  Or Pluto it’s self with its orbit off the ecliptic.pluto

So that could explain the first invasion…. Grins From there we can look to Sitchen and von Daniken.


Here is the discrepancy; if we can remember a purple dawn of creation, that time when we were a satellite of the brown dwarf Saturn before we lived in Sol, and we know there have been several ice ages on this planet since we were captured into this solar system, and we are dating the last catastrophe to the end of the last ice age, then there have been several cycles of history that we have totally lost. Not just one. So how many times have we repopulated this planet? And the question “Do we really come from earth originally?” then becomes a valid question.


My second question is how ( not if) do other alien species figure in this equation and could they be from the area of space that Saturn came from? When you look at our position in the milky way, and you then understand that we do not really sit in one spot relative the spiral arm we are in, and that we move in and out of various density of matter and energy, its not a too far leap intuitively to want to go looking for the solar system’s geo-cosmological history… so to speak.

Some of the stars in the universe are part of multiple star systems known as star clusters. Most appear to be part of a binary system where two stars orbit a common center of gravity. A few are even part of a triple star system. But some stars are also part of a larger group. They can be found together in associations known as star clusters. Star clusters are groupings of stars held together by a common gravitational bond. They vary greatly in size and shape as well as the number of stars. They also vary in age from just thousands of years to billions of years old. Gravity is the force that binds these cosmic swarms together. Star clusters are among the most spectacular objects in the sky. Many of these clusters can be seen with the naked eye on a dark night. Astronomers have divided star clusters into two main types according to their shape and number of stars. The can all be classified as either open clusters or globular clusters.


It is estimated that there are about 20,000 open star clusters in our galaxy. The reason open clusters are so young is because they don’t last very long. Gravitational interactions between the stars and other objects will cause these clusters to eventually disperse over time. Open clusters are formed when several stars are formed at the same time from the same cloud of dust and gas. Our own Sun is part of an open cluster than includes other nearby stars such as Alpha Centauri and Barnard’s star


And even though our esteemed Wall Thornhill doesn’t think we are a binary star with Sirius, we could possibly come from that area owing to the fact that our position relative to that cluster indicates a relationship.B4Ecej5IcAAUyBe


A more suitable candidate would be a star closer to the plane of the Solar System, or celestial equator. Sirius meets this criteria, at a declination of -17°. It is also the brightest star in the night sky, three times brighter than Alpha Centauri and twice as bright as the next brightest star Canopus. Sirius is also the 5th closest system of stars to our own [6]. More significant is the fact that The Sirius Research Group has been recording the position of Sirius for approximately 20 years now and has not recorded any measurable alteration in its location relative to the precession. http://www.viewzone.com/sirius.html

Which then takes you into thinking about galaxy clusters Like Laniakealanikea

And our position in the greater universe. Boggles the mind.


And doesn’t that just look like electrical Birkeland currents?

Which brings us right back down here to earth and the EU theory that electricity underlies all matter and that all is connected, and you have to ask yourself, do we really have to travel at all to meet ET or ET to us, or are we already connected. Were we ever disconnected?

I think it’s gonna take a book.

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