Reprint of BOING

This is a reprint of an article that pertains to some of the events from last night’s discussion on Jimmy Church interviewing John Burroughs…

“…you wait long enough and you hear the connecting dots hit the wall… BOING”

10:28pm · 26 Jul 2018 · TweetDeck

This is how and why I found this transcript below by listening to this video. I have been tuning into Richard Dolan’s Lives shows. This video is his analysis of the Transcript.

This is a complete pull of an article from Paradigm Research Group.

(With some commentary – very little, I assure you – and some verification references that I thought were extremely interesting.)

Dr. Hal Puthoff Address to the SSE/IRVA Conference, Las Vegas, 8 June 2018

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BENGSTON (Dr. William Bengston, President of the Society for Scientific Exploration): This certificate says, “Tim Dinsdale Memorial Award recognizing significant contributions to the expansion of human understanding through the study of unexplained phenomena.  To Harold Puthoff for the application of sound scientific principles and methodologies to the study of remote perception; quantum, zero-point fluctuations; and unidentified aerial objects, and for recognizing the potential usefulness of these often-shunned phenomena in the real world.”  To Hal.

PUTHOFF:  Thank you, thank you.  I am very honored to receive this award. I’ve known many of the previous recipients of the Dinsdale Award over the years, and they were all really, truly excellent researchers pushing the boundaries into the frontier areas of science. So to join their ranks I consider really quite a privilege.

The three areas he named in giving me the award, quantum vacuum fluctuations – actually I still publish in that area in physics journals. The second area remote viewing, in fact it’s very serendipitous that I should receive this award for this particular meeting since we have this cosponsored event with the Society for Scientific Exploration on the one hand and IRVA, International Remote Viewing Association, on the other – I was a founding member of IRVA, so I’m really excited to see how people have picked up the ball and run with it in that area.

The third area, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, I have not published anything in. Why? Because the program I was involved in, in the Pentagon and in the intelligence community has been Top Secret, behind-the-scenes and only recently has there been release of information about the program.  So this is the first chance that I’ve had a chance to actually appear before the public and speak about details of the program and not go to jail. So I’m going to go along at a rapid clip; I’ve got a lot of information here. So here we go.

The SSE is no stranger to the subject of UFOs. Unidentified Aerial Phenomena is just a new acronym for UFOs. Back a couple of decades ago Peter Sturrock – one of our founding members of SSE – arranged with (Laurance) Rockefeller to hold a weeklong workshop at the Rockefeller residence. We brought in the best of the UFO researchers, and then a panel of independent experts, and had a weeklong discussion of physical evidence related to UFO objects of which there’s a significant amount of data. Laurance Rockefeller hosted the whole thing. It was a wonderful meeting.

Eventually after publishing in the SSE journal (“Physical Evidence Related to UFO Reports,” Journal of Scientific Exploration, Vol. 12, NO. 2, pp. 179-229), Peter Sturrock put together a book, The UFO Enigma: A New Review of the Physical Evidence (Warner Books, New York, NY, 1999) and it still one of the best books you can find out there to take a look at what are the physical aspects of UFOs that researchers have uncovered.

However, of course the government is also no stranger to the UFO phenomena. Anyone who follows the field would be familiar with Project Sign, Grudge and Blue Book, but in 1969 the Condon Committee shut it all down and said, really we don’t need to be involved in this area any more. We’re not learning anything. We’re not getting anywhere. It’s not clear this is a significant area. So for the average person on the street, that’s where it all kind of ended, at least serious government interest. In fact, that’s not true.

The very memo that shut down Blue Book written by General Bolender had as part of its language, “Reports of UFOs which could affect national security would continue to be handled through the standard Air Force procedures designed for this purpose.”

Nonetheless, as far as the public was concerned that was it. Even the Air Force public affairs office put out circulars all the time in response to questions saying, “We gave this up in 1969.” What, in fact, did occur was that there were programs going on behind the scenes anyway as required by the Bolender memo. Now most people did not know about these programs, they weren’t advertised, they weren’t responded to, FOIA requests usually went dry. But that all changed last December when the New York Times published a front-page story on how there was this program investigating this area – Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. (Helene Cooper, Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal. “2 Airmen and an Object That ‘Accelerated Like Nothing I’ve Ever Seen’.” The New York Times, 16 December 2017, page A27.)

It was deeply buried, but the New York Times had good sources and they came up with information about the program, and so there’s been a lot of publicity about it. Since the New York Times broke the story, The Washington Post, CNN. Fox News – it’s been picked up all over the place.

One of the reasons why it’s attracted attention at this point is the quality of the sources going public. Ex-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is the one who initiated the program. Top-rated F-18 pilots who encountered Advanced Aerospace Vehicles at close range were permitted to come forward and tell their stories, which up till now they hadn’t because they didn’t want to lose their flight status by reporting what they had found, at least publicly.  And a number of significant Department of Defense and intelligence community officials have come forward to talk about the reality of this phenomena and the fact that there were programs going on. The program was nicknamed Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP). People have had trouble trying to get documents out of the Pentagon by saying they want all documents on AATIP, and they have a hard time because that wasn’t the actual name of the program. “Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Application Program” is the actual name of the program. But AATIP was the nickname it went by.

It began in June of 2007. The Defense Intelligence Agency was concerned about the fact that obvious observation had shown that Advanced Aerospace Vehicles – crafts, or drones of unknown origin, were flying all over the United States, over waters, in fact globally as was the case. So a Congressional budget was approved to address the issue behind the scenes. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid from Nevada was the one who was the initiator of the program, joined by Senator Inouye and Senator Stevens. These are the people who generally approve programs that were in the black, under high security, behind the scenes, and so they set up this program.

Senator Reid has not walked this back since all the news came out. He’s been very forthright and has given a number of interviews. This particular statement sort of captures it all, “We don’t know the answers, but we have plenty of evidence to support the questions. This is about science and national security. If America doesn’t take the lead in answering these questions, others will.”

There is a two-fold nature to the threat. First of all, you’ve got these Advanced Aerospace Vehicles flying around that we don’t know where they come from, who’s driving them, what the intent is – possibly off-world even. But the future threat, was actually as far as the Department of Defense went and the intelligence community, one of the greater concerns. What happens if potential adversaries achieve significant breakthroughs by getting hold of advanced technology either based on their study of the phenomena, or from sensor data, or from crash retrieved materials?  That could provide a problem for the United States in the sense of threat. There’s reason to be concerned about that. This is a document in the program we dug up out of the Soviet Union (“Thread-3”). It’s a very thick document. It shows that the Soviet Union had a massive program also trying to get to the root of all of this. In this document a number of research institutes and military institutes are listed. Of course, they had the same concerns we did. Is there a threat from the phenomena or might the Americans make headway before us and that be a threat?

Just to give you an idea of what’s being observed, which many people have seen because it’s been in the news a lot lately. Back in November of 2004, the Nimitz Carrier Group was out on patrol off of San Diego, and on several occasions an Advanced Aerospace Vehicle would descend rapidly from 60,000 feet to 50 feet in seconds, then hover, and then take off like a bullet. When it first happened and happened over a number of weeks actually, two F-18 pilots were vectored on to the site where they were being observed by the radars to investigate, and what they saw was what they called a “Tic-Tac craft” – solid white, smooth, no edges, about 46-feet in length, uniformly colored, no nacelles, pylons or wings. The F-18’s could not obtain lock with their radars because they were stealthy, but Forward Looking Infrared Radar (FLIR) could pick them up to some degree based on their heat signatures. The Advanced Aerospace Vehicle appeared to demonstrate advanced acceleration, aerodynamic and propulsion capability beyond anything that we knew existed on the planet.

I am going to play a FLIR video that many of you may have seen.

[Video of UAP intercept begins.]

“That is a [expletive deleted] drone, bro.”

“There is a whole fleet of them, look on the ASA!”

“My gosh!”

“They are all going against the wind; the wind is 120 knots from the west. Look at that thing, dude!”

“That’s not . . . I don’t understand. Look at that thing!”

“It’s rotating.”

[End of video.]


Now you might ask yourself, what can you prove from a videotape? I mean, you can see videotapes all over the Internet and so on. But this was data fusion. They are gun-camera tapes. There are these videotapes from the pilots, voice recordings, data link recordings from Aegis and many other military platforms, expert witnesses. So, in fact, the data density – and this is what’s changed the field a lot – our detection capability has gotten so advanced that we’re losing our inability to see exactly what’s going on.

The FLIR displays were recorded. There are detailed debriefs of the pilots. In that original New York Times article you can see a page-long debrief of Dave Fravor.

Key Assessments:

      • The Advanced Aerospace Vehicle is no-known air vehicle in the inventory of the U.S. or foreign nation as far as we can tell.
      • Low-observable characteristics, they are stealthy.
      • They exhibit advanced aerodynamic performance that we can’t imagine how they do it.
      • Recognize that these are infrared tapes from the pilots, so if there was some kind of hot propulsion gasses coming out the back you would have seen it, but we don’t see that.
      • They had the advanced capability to remain stationary and then take off like a shot. Dave Fravor said it was like somebody had suddenly shot a bullet.

So, how to respond to this? The Defense Intelligence Agency put out a Broad Area Announcement, in fact it was unclassified. They wanted to evaluate twelve potential threat areas with regard to these Advanced Aerospace Vehicles. There’s a list of them. Exactly what you think you’d want to know: lift, propulsion, signature reduction, human effects and so on. Now, it turned out that anyone, any aerospace corporation could apply, could send in a proposal. DIA chose Bigelow Aerospace as the contractor to address the threat. Now there’s been buzz on the Internet about, ok well, Senator Reid came from Nevada and Bigelow Aerospace is in Nevada, so wasn’t this some sort of sweetheart deal? In fact, that’s not the case. It was a Broad Area Announcement; anybody could go for it. Bigelow was actually a good choice. He’d spent a lot of his own money because he was interested in this area up to this point investigating the phenomena, and he had the best proposal. So he was tasked. He set up a special organization called Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies – we call it BAASS – to do all the things you’d expect a program like this to do. BAASS connected me at EarthTech International to collaborate as a subcontractor, and I agreed to do that.

Okay, what did I address as a subcontractor? One of the critical issues there’s so much high-level security and compartmentalization in this subject area, and there’s a lot of it, it’s difficult for contractors to obtain expert opinions on advanced technologies because they would expose why they are interested. So, I acted as a surrogate. I was contracted to commission mostly unclassified whitepapers from experts around the globe about where their particular subject areas would be in (the year) 2050 as like a general survey of aerospace futures. I decided this would be the best way to get the best knowledge we had across many technologies without actually exposing why we wanted to know.

So, I let out 38 contracts over a two-year period. I’ll show you what the studies were on. You can read them there: positron aerospace propulsion, IEC fusion as a compact energy source, warp drive, dark energy, extra dimensions, metallic glasses for aerospace use. Really cutting edge kinds of things.

Here are some more of the papers that I commissioned: negative mass propulsion, antigravity for aerospace applications, programmable matter, invisibility cloaking – these are just the kind of things that we needed to have maximum technical input from the best people around the globe. And so, that’s what we did, that’s what I did.

Now we could wait, we told these people they could publish their reports in physics journals and engineering journals, but of course the contractors didn’t want to wait for that, so the Defense Intelligence Agency bundled up these 38 papers and put them out as Defense Intelligence Reference Documents posted on a JWICS server that anyone in the government or contractors could get access to. By and large they have not been released to the public yet; a couple of them leaked out.

So let me give you an example of, how this stuff helps people who are chasing these really difficult problems. I’m choosing one here: metamaterials for aerospace use. I’d love to talk about really fancy materials, but they’re classified. However, there’s a lot of materials that have been picked up or provided even in the public domain. I’m going to give an example because it shows exactly what the structure is for how to deal with this. This is an open source sample. It was sent anonymously to talk show host Art Bell. The fellow claimed to be in the military. He said that this sample was picked up in a crash retrieval, and so he sent it by email. So what does that mean? Chain of custody non-existent.  Provenance questionable.  Could be a hoax. Could be some slag off of some foundry floor or whatever. However, it was an unusual sample, so we decided to take a look at it.

It was a multilayered bismuth and magnesium sample. Bismuth layers less than a human hair. Magnesium samples about ten-times the size of a human hair. Supposedly picked up in the crash retrieval of an Advanced Aerospace Vehicle. It looks like it’s been in a crash. The white lines are the bismuth; the darker areas are the magnesium separations. So the question was what about this material, so naturally we looked in all the national labs, we talked to metallurgists, we combed the entire structure of published papers. Nowhere could we find any evidence that anybody ever made one of these.

Secondly, some attempts were made to try to reproduce this material, but they couldn’t get the bismuth and magnesium layers to bond.

Thirdly, when we talked to people in the materials field who should know, they said we don’t know why anybody would want to make anything like this. It’s not obvious that it has any function.

Well, years later, decades later actually, finally our own science moves along. We move into an area called metamaterials, and it turns out exactly this combination of materials at exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies.

Terahertz radiation – also known as submillimeter radiation, terahertz waves, tremendously high frequency (THF), T-rays, T-waves, T-light, T-lux or THz – consists of electromagnetic waves within the ITU-designated band of frequencies from 0.3 to 3 terahertz (THz; 1 THz = 1012 Hz).


So, the wavelength is 60 microns, which is a pretty small size. But it turns out because of the metamaterial aspect of this material, those bismuth layers that act as waveguides can be one twentieth the size of the wavelength, and usually when you make a waveguide it’s gotta be about the size of the wavelength. So, in fact this turned out to be a material that would propagate sub-wavelength waveguide effects. Why somebody wants to do that we still don’t know the answer to that.

But anyway, it’s amazing we’ve gone through this and this is the kind of structure we go through a lot. You get a material sample with unusual characteristics to be evaluated, the method of manufacture is difficult to assess or reproduce, the purpose of the function is not readily apparent – as with our sample here, and then as our own technical knowledge moves forward we finally see a possible purpose or function comes to light. That sequence is repeated over and over in this particular area.

I’ll pick a second one here for the engineers or physicists in the crowd. Probably be more interesting – spacetime metric engineering.

Einstein’s 1928 Special Relativity Paper: incorporation of the torsion tensor made the theory bench engineerable – whether the math eloquently ‘finished’ the theory or not, the equation made laboratory invention of devices to change the local energy of gravity.  Farrell, Joseph P.:  Secrets of the Unified Field: the Philadelphia Experiment, the Nazi Bell, and the Discarded Theory 

This happens to be the paper that I myself provided. One of the questions is: can the reported anomalous observables of these Advanced Aerospace Vehicles be accounted for on the basis of known physics? You hear people describing craft taking right angle turns at high speeds, other things with the hovering and rapid acceleration and so on, as if the craft didn’t have any inertial mass. Well, it turns out although Einstein’s general relativity is usually used in astrophysical applications and gravity studies and so on, you can look at it from an engineering standpoint. So, if you take an engineering approach to general relativity, what I just showed can be understood. If you could change the spacetime metric the way general relativity – I’m talking about textbook, not some fanciful physics – you could even get faster-than-light travel. Alcubierre warp drive as in Star Trek. Again, you might think that’s a fanciful kind of thing, but that paper was published in one of the top general relativity journals, Miguel Alcubierre, “The Warp Drive: Hyper-Fast Travel within General Relativity,” Classical and Quantum Gravity (11:L73-L77,1994). So, if you engineer spacetime metric, you can begin to line up observables with physics that we know and love even if we can’t reproduce it.

What about the velocity of light constraint? People are always saying that. How could you have a wormhole that lets you go from one side of the universe to the other? Aren’t you beating the speed of light? What does the physicist and engineer mean by the speed of light? He means this little equation here where the speed of light is given by 1 over the square root of the permittivity times the permeability of the vacuum. So the point is if you reengineer those vacuum parameters, then you can make the effective speed of light higher in the engineered region.  Those are the solutions in general relativity that are called wormholes, and again, it’s not science fiction. This is just right-off-the-shelf, standard text book general relativity applications.

So, what that means is a reduced time interstellar travel is not as skeptics would say, “You can’t get from there to here.” Advanced ET civilizations now, or ourselves in the future are not fundamentally constrained by physical principals. The exotic physics for such can be addressed in engineering terms – some metric engineering as it were. Does this have any help? Again, by the way, this paper was also published as one of the Defense Intelligence Agency’s reference documents. And since we are permitted to publish in the open literature, I published that paper in a British interplanetary science journal, an engineering journal, so if you’re interested in looking at the details, you can learn as much as you want to know about metric engineering. (Advanced Space Propulsion Based on Vacuum (Spacetime Metirc) Engineering, H. Puthoff (2010), Journal of the British Interplanetary Society, 63, 82-89.)

That helped us understand some of the aspects, I mean you may have heard the phrase, “dense stars you get red-shift.” It turns out in this engineered technology you get so called “blue shift.” That is, frequencies are up-shifted to higher frequencies. So, for example in this room most of the radiation coming off our bodies, off the walls and so on is in fact in the infrared. But we see things in the visible range. What happens when you get into a volume of space where the vacuum has been engineered in the way I’ve been discussing? It turns out you get a blue shift. So, in fact the infrared that you don’t ordinarily see can get blue shifted up into the visible so it’s not surprising that all these craft should be so luminous. Now the downside from all of this is the fact that visible light, which doesn’t have any particularly harmful effects, gets blue shifted up into the ultraviolet, so if you get too close to a landed craft, you might get a sunburn, or off into the soft X-ray regions so there’s a chance of radiation poisoning. If you run across one of these sitting on the ground and it’s powered up, I recommend you don’t rush up.

Well, that helped us to understand. We as part of this program looked at some cases that were really good from Brazil. In 1977, 78, it was like Close Encounters of the Third Kind. A thousand pages of documents all done by the Brazilian Air Force investigative team, 500 photographs, 15 hours of motion film, a lot of medical injuries. This is a list of the different kinds of medical injuries that occurred when people encountered these craft at close range, and it has some overlap with cases that we’ve investigated during the program, of injuries occurring.

Injury Caused by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Radiation?

By Linda Moulton Howe | Earthfiles

“What makes this incredible and groundbreaking is that in January of 2015, the Veterans Administration has finally implied — after many years of attempting to get them to acknowledge that John Burroughs was injured while in the Rendlesham Forest, tying it together with the Condign document from the U. K. — it was an unidentified aerial phenomenon or vehicle that caused the injury (to John Burroughs).

– Pat Frascogna, Atty., for USAF Tech Sgt. (Ret.) John Burroughs

“By settling this case in full, the U. S. Dept. of Defense — because the V. A. is part of DoD — they confirmed that the UFO phenomenon is real.”

– John Burroughs, USAF Tech Sgt. (Ret.)

February 27, 2015 Albuquerque, New Mexico – On Saturday night, February 21, 2015, retired USAF Tech Sgt. John Burroughs received the Researcher of the Year Award at the Open Minds International UFO Congress in Fountain Hills, Arizona. The award honored John’s breakthrough by using Freedom of Information requests to the U. K.’s Ministry of Defence that finally provoked MoD admission that it was withholding 18 classified files, including 6 policy files, about the RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge Rendlesham Forest events December 26-28, 1980, that involved Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) that interacted with John Burroughs, then USAF Airman 1st Class.

John Burroughs receiving Researcher of the Year Award 2015, from Alejandro Rojas, Director of Operations, 2015 Open Minds International UFO Congress, on Saturday, February 21, 2015, Fountain Hills, Arizona. Image © 2015 by Open Minds. See Open Minds video about John Burroughs below in More Information.

In 2011, John began suffering periodic life-threatening atrial fibrillation, also known as AFib, a quivering or irregular heartbeat that can lead to blood clots, stroke, heart failure and other heart-related complications. He filed for Veterans Administration medical benefits but was denied when V. A. staff said there was no record of his serving at RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge. John sought legal help in Jackson, Mississippi, attorney Pat Frascogna and then-Arizona U. S. Senator Jon Kyl before his retirement. John’s V. A. case then went to the office of Arizona’s U. S. Senator John McCain.

Eventurally the V. A. admitted knowledge of John’s service at RAF Bentwaters-Woodbridge in the 1979-1982 time period, but found those medical records were “classified.” By 2013, needing open heart surgery to repair seriously damaged mitral valve leaflets, John was angry and frustrated at not being able to get V. A. medical disability coverage when he was learning that a Top Secret U. K. Restricted Project Condign — that had been quietly de-classified in 2006 — contained information that directly linked exposure to UAP radiation in the December 1980 Rendlesham Forest “unexplained lights” phenomenon to bodily injury and mental manipulation.

Finally under pressure from Senator John McCain’s office, the V. A. arranged John’s urgent open heart surgery for mid-December 2013. He began to recover to more normal health, but without V. A. medical benefits or his RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge medical records.

By January 23, 2014, John began filing Freedom of Information requests with the MoD and by the spring and fall of 2014, the U. K. Ministry of Defence finally admitted it withheld at least 18 classified UAP/UFO files. That is the FOIA breakthrough for which John Burroughs received the Researcher of the Year Award at the 2015 Open Minds Conference in Fountain Hills, Arizona.

January 2015: V. A. Finally Awards

John Burroughs Full Medical Disability Benefits

“U. S. Government’s De Facto Acknowledgement of the Existence of UFOs.”

– February 22, 2015, Press Release by John Burroughs and attorney Pat Frascogna

The day after his research award, on Sunday, February 22, 2015, John and his attorney, Pat Frascogna, announced in a press release the “U. S. Government’s De Facto Acknowledgement of the Existence of UFOs.” This breakthrough came with the Veterans Administration finally granting John Burroughs in January 2015 full medical disability for bodily injury in the line of duty December 26 to 28, 1980, when John twice encountered mysterious aerial lights in the U. K.’s Rendlesham Forest growing along RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge.

Attorney Frascogna said in his February 22nd press release, “The December 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident in the United Kingdom is arguably the most well documented and important UFO encounter in history. A UFO was seen over three consecutive nights by United States Air Force personnel stationed at the twin bases of Bentwaters and Woodbridge, near Ipswich, England — then the largest NATO air force base at the height of the Cold War.

Project Condign

“Airman First Class John Burroughs encountered the UFO at close proximity on the first night. While for many years the U.S. Government denied that this incident had even occurred, in 2006 the UK Government declassified an intelligence study on UFOs (codenamed Project Condign and classified as Secret UK Eyes Only) in which the following statement is found:

“The well-reported Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters event is an example where it might be postulated that several observers were probably exposed to UAP [Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon] radiation for longer than normal UAP sighting periods.”

Page F-4, ANNEX F, Vol. 2, Pages 16-30, Project Condign’s “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Air Defence Region: Executive Summary, Scientific & Technical Memorandum – No. 55/2/00,” DI55, Defence Intelligence Service, Ministry of Defence, December 2000. The red underline section begins, “The well-reported Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters event is an example where it might be postulated that several observers were probably exposed to UAP radiation for longer than normal UAP sighting periods.”

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Joseph Patrick Frascogna, Atty., Madison, Mississippi:

“After many years of trying to get the Veterans Administration to recognize that John Burroughs was injured in the line of duty in December 1980 in responding to what initially was thought to be a downed aircraft in the Rendlesham Forest near the twin bases of Bentwaters and Woodbridge, the injury that he received was immediate to his heart — something that he did not have when he went into the Air Force just a year or so before that eventually would require open heart surgery.


The damage was described as a shredded anterior mitral valve component of his heart. I was there in Tucson with John at the V. A. in late 2013 (December 18) when he had his surgery. And I spoke to the cardiac surgeon, who performed that surgery and he said that he did not know what could have caused that damage.


Yes, in reference to the document that was formerly U. K. Restricted and I am just going to quote from it: ‘The well-reported Rendlesham Forest/Bentwaters event is an example where it might be postulated that several observers were probably exposed to UAP radiation for longer than normal UAP sighting periods. The unidentified aerial phenomenon” — or referred to in the United States as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) or “anomalous vehicles” and when these craft are operating, they emit a certain electromagnetic field. That field is known to cause injury. That is what was referenced in the U. K. document.

Groundbreaking Implication of V. A. Granting Full Medical Benefits to John Burroughs — UAPs Are Real and UAP Radiation Injured John During Military Duty

What makes this incredible and groundbreaking is that in January of 2015, the Veterans Administration has finally implied — after many years of attempting to get them to acknowledge that John Burroughs was injured while in the Rendlesham Forest, tying it together with the Condign document from the U. K. — it was an unidentified aerial phenomenon or vehicle that caused the injury (in John Burroughs).


I think the reason we believe they are still classified is because there is too much information in them. We don’t know to what detail things may have been recorded in them. We don’t know who all may have been involved in the construction of those records that might be linked to them. So I think keeping the records classified is still serving a purpose for whatever that may be. But obviously, the door has been finally opened when it never has been before. There has always been denial after denial after denial. This time it’s different. This time there is an actual ability to link up things that have happened, things that have been said from officialdom.

A.’s Action Is De Facto

Confirmation of UAP/UFO Reality


Yes, confirmation. It does seem to be that and I think the community has always known, the researchers and so forth, that just a straight out disclosure at a press conference in the White House, that sort of thing, was probably never going to happen because there were just too many bad things that would have to be dealt with if you did it that way. Number One, why have you lied to the people of the world for so long? Why have you done that?

Now, there are many, many, many questions to both countries (U. S. and U. K.) and to find out what this means going forward?”

John Burroughs


John Burroughs, USAF Tech Sergeant (Ret.), Normal, Illinois:

“By settling this case in full, the U. S. Department of Defense — because the V. A. is part of the Department of Defense as far as they have to go through the DoD to get this information and confirm it — it is confirmation. They confirmed that the UFO phenomenon is real.

They confirmed that I and others encountered it (UAP radiation). And they have confirmed it (UAP radiation) has harmful effects on me and more than likely other people, you know that were out there. To me, confirmation trumps disclosure because Project Condign confirms that this is what’s going on in the world and that the governments of the world are aware of it. This report, Project Condign, was highly classified — some of it has been declassified, but a lot of it remains classified. The majority of governments of the world are aware of it and working on it. And what are they working on — the biggest part of it? Project Condign did not say they were looking at it from a help-the-world-standpoint as far as medical and all that other stuff. What they are looking at it for and what they are classifying, the parts that are being classified, is the weaponization part of it.

It’s taken over three decades. There has been denial. There has been disinformation. But finally, there has been a real breakthrough and I think this is a victory for everybody, not just me, but something that a lot of people fought hard for and continue to fight for and I think it’s something that just confirms that this is really going on.

More Pressure Needs to Be Put On

MoD to Release All Bentwaters Files

Obviously, it’s not THE smoking gun that everyone is looking for where you have some kind of bodies and some kind of craft. But you do have confirmation that the governments of the world are: a) are aware of it and b) they are working on it. I think more people need to push the MoD a lot harder on Project Condign itself and what they are still holding back and the documents they denied having in the first place.

MOD DI55 Document About Radiation

At UAP Site in Rendlesham Forest

Now, before Condign, there was already through FOIA through the release of the British government, there was a document in there that British MoD DI55 talked about where they were looking over whatever documents could possibly be the ones that have never been released that the MoD claimed they lost ( 030411 Earthfiles).

But it was clearly in that DI55 document that they said we were exposed to above background radiation.


February 23, 1981, “Loose Minute” memo to DI55a about the subject of “Unexplained Lights” phenomena in Rendlesham Forest near RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge December 26-28, 1980, that emitted “significantly higher than the average background (radiation) of about 0.015 milliroentgens.”

Right, they actually call it the ‘phenomena’ right away. They (MoD’s DI55) had already reviewed whatever they had reviewed as far as whatever has been sent to them. And right away, they were calling it a ‘phenomena’!




Now, that was one of the documents that was submitted to the V. A. The fact that there was an MoD document saying that we were exposed to above background radiation. Then, when you get into Project Condign, which is a huge report that has a lot in it, but it’s one of the few things in the report when you go through the report — and it’s over 400 pages long (460 pages) — there’s a spot in there where it goes: ‘The well-reported Rendlesham/Forest Bentwaters event is an example where it might be postulated that several observers were probably exposed to UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon) radiation for longer than normal UAP sighting periods.’


I’m not a scientist, but it’s the type of radiation that if you go into the documents itself, they are actually working on it — a lot of it is redacted in these documents. If you look at the Project Condign report — and a lot of it was classified Secret or above. So, if none of it is of defense significance, if none of it matters, why is some of it still redacted? A lot of it is still redacted. Why was it all classified first as Secret?

The phenomenon itself, they talk about it on and off within Condign, but there is no definitive answer of exactly what the phenomenon is other than it exists. It is clear. And then they go into what it is capable of doing and that there is high interest in it, even from a defense standpoint.”

“I wish to make it perfectly clear that the UFOs that I saw were structured machines moving under intelligent control and operating beyond the realm of anything I have ever seen before or since. I believe the objects that I saw at close quarter were extraterrestrial in origin and that the security services of both the United States  and England were and have been complicit in trying to subvert the significance  of what occurred at Rendlesham by use of well-practiced methods of disinformation.”

– Col. Charles Halt (Ret.), June 25, 2009 Press Release

Lt. Col. Charles I. Halt described a mysterious aerial light above Rendlesham Forest that emitted several thin, white beams down to the ground, including one right in front of his own feet as he stood next to Staff Sergeant Monroe Nevels in the early morning hours of December 28, 1980. Illustration [by Jan Roth at used with permission.]

February 27, 2015 Albuquerque, New Mexico – Continuing interview with John Burroughs. See video of 2015 Researcher of the Year Award to John in More Information below.

Interview with John Burroughs:

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John Burroughs, retired USAF Tech Sgt., Normal, Illinois:


Right, it’s a high spectrum radiation in the terahertz range and that this type of radiation is highly classified within the Dept. of Defense and even in the MoD. What I mean by classified is terahertz is out there. It’s being used in the white world (airport security scanners). But it (UAP frequencies) is also being worked on in the black world. This type of radiation is being looked at for weaponization in a lot of different ways, which is classified.”

Spectrum of Ionizing to Non-Ionizing

Electromagnetic Radiation

Terahertz waves (where thin black lines above point) lie at the far end of the infrared band (red), just before the start of the microwave band (grey and pink). Left to right in the graphic above are .01 nanometer (1 billionth of a meter) ionizing radiation; 1 nm ionizing x-rays and 100 nm ionizing ultraviolet. Then non-ionizing frequencies are visible light in which human eyes see; non-ionizing infrared; 1 millimeter (1 thousandth of a meter) non-ionizing terahertz radiation; 1m non-ionizing microwaves; and 1 km non-ionizing radiowaves and extremely low frequencies. Graphic by Spectre.sfg.

Ionizing alpha, beta and gamma rays, x-rays and ultraviolet rays have enough energy to strip off tightly bound electrons from atoms, which are ions. Thus, ionizing radiation can do serious damage to human and other Earth life tissues.

Non-ionizing radiation that has enough energy to move atoms in a molecule around or cause them to vibrate, but not enough to remove electrons, is referred to as “non-ionizing radiation.” Examples of these frequencies are the visible light spectrum, infrared, terahertz, microwaves, radio and extremely low frequencies. Current civilian world uses of non-ionizing radiation include terahertz airport body scanners, microwaves for telecommunications and heating food and liquids; infrared lamps to keep food warm in restaurants; and radio waves broadcasting.

UAP Radiation

How Does It Damage Human Tissues?


The best I can tell you on this is that it was clear once this information was made available, all of a sudden the doctors knew what to look for and they did some more testing (on me). Prior to that (classified information provided about UAP radiation exposure at RAF Bentwaters in Dec. 1980), my civilian doctors could not understand a guy of my health overall — my heart was healthy other than the fact that it was being damaged because it kept going into A fib (atrial fibrillation) and congestive heart failure. They (civilian doctors) could not understand why it was doing that because there was no reason for it. They could not get to the bottom of it. That’s when they requested my military records in the first place and were denied.

Basically once this (UAP radiation exposure) information became available, everything expedited and within a short period of time — you know, within a 3-month period — I was completely treated and they figured out what was wrong. They went in and did this surgery and my life was saved. I credit that to Senator John McCain’s office and to a doctor that was behind the scenes that gave information to the doctors in the V. A., who then knew what to look for and were able to do life saving surgery.


Yes. That was the basis of the whole claim. I mean, originally it was, ‘I need my medical records for the civilian doctors.’ It was denied. Then along the way, it became clear to the people involved trying to get my records that they were most likely classified. They (V. A. workers) were the ones that stated that.

To this day, my medical records were not released to me in this (V. A.) settlement. I am not allowed to see them. I am not allowed to have access to them, nor was my FOIA answered. My FOIA was, ‘I want a confirmation from the Department of Defense and the V. A. Are my records classified? Do they lie within the classified section? Where are my medical records being held?’

That (FOIA) has also been ignored, which is a violation of federal law. They (gov’t) have to acknowledge a FOIA and they didn’t!

But the bottom line is that my medical claim was based on the facts that:

— I was injured in the line of duty.

— That I became sick right after the incident.

— Which was the reason why I had my heart issues.

— Here’s the Condign proof that this incident happened.

— And not only that, but the Condign proof shows that my heart was damaged by whatever I was exposed to in the Rendlesham Forest in December 1980.

Physical Illness Symptoms Soon

After Rendlesham Forest Encounters


The interesting thing is that I never had a medical exam per se where they found the issue at Bentwaters. But I did not feel good right after the incident and I struggled with different things — vision, throat and some other problems, but they never found the heart issue.

It was after I returned to the United States four or five months later that again I got sick, just out of the blue, completely got sick and I went into the civilian hospital. My heart was not acting properly. They found a heart murmur and there was an abnormal anomaly in the heart. And the interesting thing about that, which I didn’t know at the time, but I’ve learned over the years, is a lot of times when they find this heart murmur anomaly in the heart and do an EKG and stuff like that, that leads to you have some kind of heart blockage.

But I never had that. As a matter of fact, prior to my surgery (Dec. 2013), the doctors checked for that, in case they were going to have to clean out my arteries, and they were clean. I have no heart disease, no heart problems, no nothing. The only heart problem I have was that both of my leaflets were shredded. But the one that normally doesn’t even have any damage in the mitral valve was completely shredded, which was on the inside of my mitral valve. And that was causing all my heart issues.


Yeah, it can, it states that in the report. People need to read that report.

[See hot links below to Condign Report ANNEX F.]

The Project Condign report is the closest thing to a smoking gun that’s out there right now, next to the fact of recovering a craft. And what I mean by that is to have proof of a craft. I mean there are implications that the crafts have been recovered and I’m not saying they haven’t been. But no one in the public has got that proof, as far as I know. But this is a report and it was a highly classified intelligence study on UFOs.

“UAP” Acronym Used by MoD

to Avoid FOIA Requests About UFOs

What is interesting, too, within some other work that I’ve done where I’ve got the MoD to admit they are still holding back 18 files — these are some of the policy files that they are holding back — six of them (policy files) and in fact, 18 files overall withheld.

Originally the MoD used ‘UFOs.’ And then later on, all of a sudden they (MoD) changed it to UAPs.


Right. I was able to get them to admit that they (MoD) still withheld these 18 files and some other stuff that I’m still holding on to. But they’ve gotten to the point now because of my follow up questions, they will not even answer anymore of my questions. They (MoD) used this reasoning — they said, ‘We are no longer going to discuss which files we are holding, what interdepartmental memos, emails or anything else involved in this case until after these 18 files are released.’

Well, after the V. A. reviewed all my documents and everything that was presented to them, it appears that they have had some type of access to my medical records (because) they agreed that I was injured in the line of duty; that I deserved compensation and to be taken care of for my injuries in the line of duty in the forest of Rendlesham in 1980. Which all goes back to Project Condign, the UAP radiation and that other MoD DI55 report acknowledging that we were exposed to above background radiation.

Now, when I first got them (MoD) to admit to these (withheld) files, they were supposed to release them last Fall or early Winter 2014. But then when a British citizen — that’s how they magically released all of this where they didn’t acknowledge the fact that they had admitted that to me. They had a British citizen who had read some of my work that was put out — or some of the work that’s been done with my colleagues, too, that’s been put out — that he made another request supposedly, and then they (MoD) admitted, ‘Yeah, well, we’re holding on to 18 files and we’re going to release them eventually. The tentative release date will be sometime at the end of this year (2015). But there have been follow up FOIAs since then. Mine were not acknowledged, as usual, but somebody else did not get a response back either on when they (MoD) plan on releasing these (18) files, which I think are important and one of the things I think they are going to have a problem with this time is there’s going to be more people wanting to know what’s redacted and why it’s redacted.

Before, they just kind of seemed to get away with it. They just kind of said, ‘Well, here you go, guys, this is it. We don’t have anymore. And this is what we know and it’s no big deal. Well, now, if they claim they claim they released everything — that’s not true. That’s one of those: ‘I’m never going to tell you a total lie, but I’m never going to tell you the whole truth’ type of scenario.

What they are doing is saying, ‘Here’s what we can release. Here’s what’s redacted. Here’s what’s de-classified now, but there’s still a lot still classified within this that we’re not going to release.’

Why would they do that? Why would they still hold it (some files) back? Because it’s still of defense significance.

Is UAP Radiation in the Black World

Being Used in Weapon Systems?


My gut feeling is that it’s written within Project Condign itself. It’s the fact that everybody’s in a race to weaponize this technology. What I mean is the major world powers. That particular technology — this would be the next game changer.

Not only is it a game changer for whoever would hold the technology and be able to utilize it the best — but then also, is there a real threat from outside? In my case, it is unknown. When I was hurt, was it intentional or not? I can’t answer that. I mean, it could be just as simple as what happened when the Europeans came over to America and the North American Indians were exposed to them for the first time and there was stuff (germs) within what they had and carried that caused disease and sickness. It could just be as simple as that was what happened to me.

But then, there could be more implications to it. There are definitely reports of things that have happened where there has been some kind of exchange (with UAPs). So not only would it benefit the countries of the world to understand this technology if there is a threat from above. But it would also benefit whoever had the best ability to use this technology to rule the world itself.”

“I wish to make it perfectly clear that the UFOs that I saw were structured machines moving under intelligent control and operating beyond the realm of anything I have ever seen before or since. I believe the objects that I saw at close quarter were extraterrestrial in origin and that the security services of both the United States and England were and have been complicit in trying to subvert the significance of what occurred at Rendlesham by use of well-practiced methods of disinformation.”

– Col. Charles Halt (Ret.), June 25, 2009 press release

Project Condign Hot Links

Page F-4 and 14 other pages, Vol. 2 ANNEX F – “Non-Ionising EM Effects On Humans” and “Potential Mental Effects On Humans”

May 15, 2006, declassified and released:

K. The National Archives, for hot links to UAP Executive Summary; Volume 1; Volume 2; and Volume 3.

October 30, 2014 Earthfiles: “Updated – USAF Tech Sgt. (Ret.) John Burroughs Has Forced U. K. Ministry of Defence to Admit It Withheld At Least 18 Classified UFO Files”:

May 4, 2011 Earthfiles: “8,500 More UFO Pages Released by U. K. Ministry of Defence – But RAF Bentwaters Files Are Missing”:

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Despite the progress in the AATIP program, let’s face it, the topic is inherently anomalous, right? Therefore, despite the reality of the observations and all the people that we interact with in the intelligence community and the Pentagon agree – the data is there, it is real. Nonetheless the topic doesn’t fit smoothly into known profiles of the government programs for sure. And by virtue of national security implications it’s a high compartmentalizational topic, therefore a slow pace of cumulative progress and integration. We call ’em “stovepipes.” You have a lot of people with lots of detailed information about some particular aspect, but they don’t talk each other even if it is sitting at the next desk. And let’s face it, advocacy of this issue in government circles is not viewed as career enhancing in part because, despite the weirdness of the subject, if you don’t make a lot of progress, you know, it doesn’t look good on your resume that you’re moving up the line.

So, because of that, there’s a forward story. Many of us involved in the program decided that there should be an outreach program in the public sector. So this is the forward story. The goal was to establish a broad-based, high-quality scientific community-of-interest in the public sector concerning these Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and other related leading-edge topics. And so we got together and formed a company called, To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science. It was cofounded by entrepreneur Tom DeLonge – I’ll talk about him in a minute – senior intelligence officers from the Department of Defense and CIA and distinguished research scientists. We all banded together to form this academy. It was set up as a public benefit corporation so the public can invest and therefore it’s owned by the public. So this is something new. Whatever comes out of any of the research or any of the releases of information is actually going to be owned by the public.  It is not going to disappear into a black hole. A very transparent structure, if you go to the website you can see everything from the financial structure to the activities, and we do have a web-based community-of-interest where things get posted. For example, the F-18 FLIR tape I showed, we now have three of them up there and probably more to come.

Alright, who are the principals of this organization? Tom DeLonge, Blink 182 rock star. Frankly, I’d never heard of Blink 182, but my son told me, “Oh yeah, we know about Blink 182.” But anyway, in addition to being the rock star that he is, he’s also a director and producer, puts out books and music and film and so on, and he’s had a lifelong interest in the UFO area. So, he started talking with various people and he was kind of the I guess you could say the action-oriented person, who said “Why don’t you set up something. Why don’t we make this more available to the public?” and he got to a number of us, and so we all began to band together. Lou Elizondo, who was in fact the Department of Defense’s, the Pentagon’s AATIP program director resigned from the Pentagon and joined us.

Chris Mellon, 20-year career, Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Minority Staff Director of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, he joined us. We got Jim Semivan, 25-year career and CIA’s Director of Operation. He was the real James Bond kind of guy. Steve Justice just retired as program director for the billion-dollar programs at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works. He joined us.

And then, I agreed to be on the Board. So, I joined them. In addition to my science and engineering background, I’ve had a lot of activity in classified areas so it was a natural fit for me interacting with all these people.

We also put together a policy and scientific advisory panel of the best people we could find. Chris Mellon agreed to be the Chair. Dr. Colm Kelleher, he was actually the deputy administrator at Bigelow Aerospace to run the AATIP program out of the Pentagon. Dr. Gary Nolan, top genetics professor at Stanford University. Dr. Kahn, 30 year career with the CIA counter biological weapons program. Dr. Rapp, professor of military and emergency medicine, Uniform Services University. Dr. Gilpin, consultant on academic biomedical research and research law.

So, we put together a team as panelists to keep us on the straight and narrow of really top people who have wonderful backgrounds and really want to see scientific work be done in this area.

So, the goals for the To the Stars Academy are to,

      • Promote the concept that such forefront topics as UFOs, SETI, consciousness studies, even telepathy and psychokinesis should not be considered taboo for serious scientific consideration. So, it’s a perfect match to the SSE because that’s our goal in the SSE as well.

(I link an article here, and also Grant Cameron’s entire you tube video listing because everything he is talking about is about the above bulleted point. It is his and my assertion that “Consciousness is the Unified Field.”   All of which are excellent!! The implications are astounding.)


      • And of course, big ideas that generate funding to underwrite significant research in these areas
      • Develop user friendly data bases so information that is generated can be accessed by anyone
      • Provide positive support for collaborative government, aerospace industry, and academic efforts to accomplish all of the above.

So, we want to act as the glue in the public sector and create entertainment properties, books and documentaries and so on so whatever is learned can be delivered out to the public.

The structure of the organization has a science structure, an aerospace structure, and an entertainment division. What are the activities of this organization to date? Actually we were responsible for legitimizing the topic in the mainstream press. That story that came out in The New York Times and so on, which then got picked up by the Washington Post, CNN, Fox News, was based on agreed-upon interviews with those of us I’ve just gone through a list of. And given the quality of sources coming out from the shadows, for example Ex-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, top F-18 pilots, significant Department of Defense and intelligence community officials, the bar has been raised on the legitimization of this topic in the public arena.  We think that’s an accomplished goal to date.

And via the community-of-interest postings on the website, we now have three high quality F-18 video tapes of unidentified aerial phenomena encounters. They’ve been previously languishing in the Pentagon servers, nobody doing that much with them. These are still being generated. One of the tapes is from 2016 off the East Coast of the United States. There are a lot more tapes. Hopefully we’ll get a lot more of them posted.

We don’t just produce positive results or what people would think would be supportive results. One of our scientists, science advisers is Garry Nolan from Stanford University, who’s a genetics expert.  There had been claims that some small humanoid skeleton found in Chile – the so called Atacama Humanoid – might be ET. We could see why somebody might think that if you see the structure. But anyway, Nolan and people from other universities put together a complete genetics thing and did the entire genome and found in fact no unfortunately this is not evidence of ET, it’s a deformed human. That’s up on the website if you to read the paper. It was published in one of the top genetics journals – very well peer-reviewed.  (Bhattacharya S, Li J, Sockell A, Kan MJ, Bava FA, Chen SC, Ávila-Arcos MC, Ji X, Smith E, Asadi NB, Lachman RS, Lam HYK, Bustamante CD, Butte AJ, Nolan GP. “Whole-genome sequencing of Atacama skeleton shows novel mutations linked with dysplasia.” Genome Research 2018 Apr;28(4):423-431.)

Meetings are being set up with people from other countries because other countries, who also have materials, don’t necessarily want to give them to the U.S. Government because they disappear into a black hole and they never learn anything. But given our commitment as a public benefit corporation, that’s not gonna happen with us. They are now talking to us and we are collaborating on obtaining materials from foreign countries.

We are negotiating with media outlets to get all this out in the public in the form of documentaries or TV shows, whatever. So basically that’s the back story, the forward story and I’m glad to answer any questions. I’ll answer any I can.

QUESTIONER: Your good friend John Alexander published a book, and I know I’ll have a chance to ask him this too. Why was it so hard for him to find who is doing the research, who was holding files on UFOs? In his book he said “Everybody thought someone else was doing it” and everybody said in all the departments “it’s not me, it’s somebody else that is doing it.”

PUTHOFF: It was somebody else doing it.


PUTHOFF: If materials are being held in Special Access Programs, casual conversation even with high-level people who know your interest and they’re interested, too, won’t necessarily reveal the facts.

QUESTIONER: I think Luis Elizondo even said his own boss wasn’t quite sure what he was doing. Is that true?

PUTHOFF: That’s true.

BUCHMAN: My name is Joe Buchman, I was one of the organizers of the 2013 Citizen’s Hearing which was also an attempt to gather the best evidence on ETs or UFOs. I don’t know if you are aware of those hearings, if you are, I’d be interested in your take on it.  But my second question though would be about the other tapes.  You said there are a lot of other tapes.  Are those classified? If not, or even if they are, can you characterize them in any way or tell us more about them?

PUTHOFF: They’re not a lot different from this. Some of them were classified because of where they were taken. But as far as the content of what we are interested from the technical standpoint, they’re not that different. Provided you strike out the location and so on, then there’s a chance of getting them declassified and we are working on that.

BUCHMAN: Specifically regarding the Citizen Hearing, is there any of the data presented there that you found particularly useful?

Answer: Well, you have to pick and choose among the data. I’m familiar with the Citizen Hearing and so on and certainly the depositions by the individuals who were in the launch towers for missiles . . .

BUCHMAN: Bob Salas.

PUTHOFF: Bob Salas for example – that’s all really good data. And the FAA administrator who came forward (John Callahan) – all good data.

BUCHMAN: Thank you.

QUESTIONER: Thanks very much for your talk.  I wanted to bring up something as to the nature of the release.  I guess the figure was 22 million dollars and then the program was closed? It may be a leap, but I think it’s common knowledge among UFO researchers that the spending in actuality is in the billions if not more.  So some people in the UFO research community have raised the question, is this a duck on the pond, to state a figure as low as 22 million and then state that the program no longer exists.  I was hoping you might have some comments on the great deal of concern that has arisen from these statements.

PUTHOFF: That’s a fair concern.  This 22 million dollar program was one particular program. That does not say that there were not other programs with other funding levels. It isn’t like, suddenly there was this one program that did not last long and did not have that much money and it shut down.

Interest is continuing. Negotiations are continuing. The programs are being looked at. A lot is going on.  I and my colleagues spend a lot of time in Washington talking to committees that are looking at this from many different angles.  So the general view that, “Oh, it was just one program that came forward and didn’t provide much of value and then it got cancelled . . .”. That’s not really the case.

Also those figures are associated with the figures that went out to contractors. But that does not mean that people within the system aren’t still working on it.

QUESTIONER: For all of us inventors working in our garages, on metric engineering devices, is there going to be a clearinghouse for people to trade discoveries? Just the thing about the frequency shift (to blue). We can all be looking for line shifts with lasers to see if we can generate generate micro effects. Something like that would be incredibly valuable. How can that come out?”

PUTHOFF: We have a Maverick Inventor Program at EarthTech International, my organization, and also at the To The Stars Academy is putting together a research organization. So, if you are doing some metric engineering in your lab and you’ve got some laser shifting a frequency, bring them on; we will look at them.


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…and this only the tip of the iceberg. It seems everything (just about) that has been fabulous and too unbelievable in the past 10 years is being shown as true or fact. The dots are starting to hit the wall so hard they echo.

How to finanace an entire off the books civilization: Richard Dolan Interviews Cathryn Austin Fitts

Get a note pad out. This starts out fast and just gets faster and deeper.

KGRA: Richard Dolan from Uluru with Catheryn Austin Fitts

The ET Time Capsule: a must view


Dark Journalist and Robert Merritt: Nixon’s ET Time Capsule Will Change History

Dark Journalist, Daniel Liszt interviews Federal informant Robert Merritt in what the former believes to be his greatest scoop yet. Merritt was introduced to DJ by past interviewee Douglas Caddy, the Watergate attorney who represented E Howard Hunt, Gordon Liddy and for the five burglars who broke in disguised as plumbers.

Official FOIA documents show that Robert Merritt was an informant for the FBI, CIA and the ATF and he also testified at the Senate Watergate hearings.

Merritt is now believed to be in the final weeks of his life and he wanted to get some Earth-shaking information off his chest he received during three late-night meetings with President Richard Nixon in a bunker beneath the White House.

He says that a beset Nixon, knowing that he would not escape infamy during his lifetime read aloud to Merritt a message for posterity before sealing it somewhere in the White House as a time capsule for later generations to learn the Truth.

The letter contains information about how the United States had had an extraterrestrial being under its protection for 20 years and that scientists at Los Alamos had learned to communicate with this being, which helped them to develop advanced technologies.

Merritt says that Nixon said the discovery of this ET and its Earth-Changing information “Fell into our laps and that he did not use that word “extraterrestrial.” Nixon said that we had discovered things that came from the outer space or maybe a different universe which could either destroy us or be a great gift for humanity.

Douglas Caddy has sent a letter to the National Archives with the promise of directions to President Nixon’s ET time capsule, under the condition that its contents be made public.

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Original interview


Follow up analysis


There is a HUGE (did I say HUGE!!!) paper trail on this. I have heard variations of this story many times before for about the last 20 years or so and this is the first clear version of it with a verifiable paper trail and a first person interview together.

HOWEVER, this is only one teensy piece of information, only one side of a many sided story but it helps. DK said that Nixon was fond of playing poker and IMO, this situation in many ways shows what a great strategist he was. It also gives credence to the idea that maybe he wasn’t such a crook – especially today in light of all that we know now about everybody else. It also brings light to the JFK assignation being more ET centered than money centered. (so many theories as to why) It lends credence to Joseph Farrell’s Third Force operating in the exopolitical arena, and the breakaway arena.

This is a juicy nugget to consider when you look at the presidency from Eisenhower to today concerning the ‘ET’ issue.

Ha!! By Douglas Caddy…ebook/

There’s just all sorts of stuff going on luring all of us to step out of the observer and come play the game…

I have been following a slightly different time line on the SpaceX situation and it starts back on July 31st of this year.

This video was published on July 31, 2016. Since May, the Farsight Institute has been executing an experiment to see if they could remote view the major headlines one month ahead. They were not putting these videos up until AFTER the month was over, simply to be able to show results along with the remote viewing sessions. They were so surprised at the remote viewings for August, that they decided to publish them early in case it could help some one. Also, as this was about the future, if enough people heard about it, maybe it could be changed.

Published on Jul 31, 2016

This video is part of the Time-Cross Project being conducted at The Farsight Institute. Here, remote viewers perceive a month in advance the political turmoil in the streets during the month of August 2016. For the first time in our monthly series of Time-Cross experiments, all of the viewers have remarkably similar sessions describing what appears to be a singular incident or event for August. As you watch these sessions, it is important to remember that the viewers worked independently, separated by vast distances (Hawaii, Great Britain, and North Carolina), and none of the viewers shared or compared their sessions in any way while doing their work. These are the unedited remote-viewing sessions done by Daz Smith, Dick Allgire, and PrinCess Jeanee, all done in July 2016 and published on YouTube on July 31st, describing the major news event of August 2016.

Please continue to follow the results of our monthly Time-Cross Project. It is one of the most interesting remote-viewing projects ever attempted. Also, be sure to watch some of our Mysteries Projects. We are offering our Time-Cross Project free to the public as a way of demonstrating the reality and potential of remote viewing. It costs Farsight a few thousand dollars each month to do this. So your help, by watching our Mysteries Projects, is the only thing that pays the bills. Also, please subscribe to our YouTube channel.

There was quite the speculation when this came out – I made the mistake of trying to see all three sessions as one whole event. Then Kerry Cassidy tried to set up a panel discussion with several people, one of which was Dick Allgire to discuss and explore the July 31st posting from Farsight. When it became clear that her efforts were being blocked she then attempted to warn Elon Musk in this video.

Published on Sep 1, 2016


On August 13th I put out a public warning to ELON MUSK at SPACE X that there may be sabotage associated with DRAGON… See below for my Broadcast.

It does appear that Keith Hunter’s suggestion that the Dick Allgire remote viewed event of August could relate to the return of the Dragon Capsule was not exactly on the mark but close!! I picked up on this and put out a warning. What may have happened (as there has been no loss of life) is, that we prevented the SPACE X incident from being bigger than it was….

Investigation ongoing….

Also see my recent video roundtable discussion with Jim Marrs and Dick Allgire about the August Remote viewings…

Also see ufo nearby just before it explodes:…

When things finally came together, Dick Allgire and Jim Marrs give a sterling interview discussion on many aspects of remote viewing including a detailed analysis of how and what the August look see might apply to. THIS WAS BEFORE SPACEX EXPLODED!!

Streamed live on Aug 31, 2016

This is a ROUNDTABLE conversation with Jim Marrs and Dick Allgire. We discuss the August Event that Dick, one of the Courtney Brown Farsight Institute remote viewers, who was involved in the August viewing about 1 month ago. We will be discussing whether that viewing was accurate and what makes for accurate viewing and interpretation of viewings as well as the technique itself.


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When I saw this I realized the mistake I had made trying to combine all three remote viewings into one when Dick Allgire explained the process. Very Enlightening!

What happens next is Kerry’s Interview with Simon Parkes:

Streamed live 22 hours ago

I interviewed Simon Parkes Thursday, September 1st at 10 AM PT ….

RE: RAMPING UP OF MILITARY ACTION… THE BANKSTERS ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME FOR THE FINANCIAL RESET and need to get WWIII going to make there plans for ONE Word Government and One World Military a reality.




which is all about the build up to a false flag operation in Europe – highly informative – but at the very beginning Simon informs Kerry of the SpaceX explosion before it ever hit the news here. He states he heard about it about 4 minutes after it happened. You can see the shock on Kerry’s face at this point as she probably realizes that Dick Allgire’s prediction of supersonic speed and extreme temperature but (NO NUCLEAR) explosion just happened.

And then, we get the footage of the SpaceX explosion.

We all notice anomalies in the footage and I immediately think of Kerry’s reports and Dick Allgire’s remote viewing session.

Then progress to Jimmy Church’s face book page and some talented Fadernauts and we have most of the anomalies screen captured.

Here is my screen capture and IMO (of course) it looks like a craft – a bright onespacex1 and this is just one of several – at one point it looks like there is a craft and its projectile.spacex2 It seems that several were fired at several heights.

As a side note Simon Parkes also addresses the Threat to Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor after the mandate to her people to pack in two weeks’ worth of food

and water ‘in case’ of a disaster, which, must have pissed off the cabal. Simon predicted that her life would be threatened for this and he was right.: in the below video.

Published on Aug 29, 2016 Supposed assassination attempt on German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the situation in Europe.

There’s just all sorts of stuff going on luring all of us to step out of the observer and come play the game… it would be so easy to….

The Revolt on Mars!

It was with no little relief that I heard last night that the colonists on Mars have begun a revolt against their ICC controllers. We hear from Corey Goode that the colonists in the manufacturing facilities there were told as a ‘Social Experiment’ that we on the planet earth had all died and that a nuclear winter was in process on the planet, so they had no place to go back to. He went into detail about how down trodden and controlled they seemed to him, how drab and depressing life was where they worked and lived and how every aspect of their lives was controlled. Ever since that came out early on in his testimony I have felt so sorry for these people. Sorry that we couldn’t just march in there and save them, but that never works, does it?

Here is an excerpt from that interview. These are all available from the web site link at the bottom of the excerpt.

Cosmic Disclosure: Mars Colony Inspection

Season 1, Episode 7

And the way we entered in – there were quite a few of the colony’s security personnel that were accompanying us. And I had one of my security (people) on each side of me. And across from me were five of the colony’s security.

And as we were heading down very quickly – it was about 8km I think I heard them say, to the industrial complex – I was asked where I was from. And I made the mistake of saying “Texas”. (emphasis mine)

Well, I left out before, we were told that as we had landed, before we had entered into the checkpoint, the ICC representative told us “Listen, this particular base is a part of a social experiment that’s very important to humanity. Please don’t contaminate it! They were told that Earth was inhabitable..” from some sort of catastrophe of something, and that the only people, human beings, that survived were those on Mars and in the Space Program. So, I had pretty much messed up. (emphasis mine)

DW: Wow.

CG: Because I was recently sunburned and I had put on aloe and all kinds of stuff. I reeked of Earth, I was told.

DW: Do they all use similar hygiene products?

CG: Yes, they use all the exact same hygiene products. Gonzalez told me later on my deodorant, the lotions I used, the hair gel, everything – I totally smelled alien.

DW: So what happen on this guy’s face when you say “Texas”, and he thinks that the Earth has been destroyed?

CG: Well, the few in front of me immediately were like (glares)– you know, and they looked at each other. And they immediately started talking amongst themselves. And then my security guy, and the security guy next to him started talking. And the next thing I know, I see Gonzales’ poke out and his head crane over and look in my direction, and I didn’t even look at him. I just looked past the security guy and watched the blurry wall going by out the window until we stop. And then, we got out to begin the tour of the facility.

DW: What did Gonzales – when he looked at you, — what was the…

CG: I didn’t look at him. But he approached me very quickly afterwards, and he said he was thinking how he could salvage the situation. He was going to try to think of Texas being a secret facility or a secret vessel or something like that to try to save the situation.

DW: Do you think they were shown some sort of fake Hollywood style movie?

CG: Who knows? But what I do know is..

DW: That they believed it absolutely

CG: Yes. What I do know is that many of these people, especially during the brain-drain era and a little after, were being brought in, coerced to join these Mars colonies being told that the Earth was about to go through a catastrophe; that they were the best of the best, they were “special”, and they were a part of a “continuity of preservation of the human species” program to basically colonize Mars and eventually terraform Mars and restart the human race.

From <>

So when I heard this new bit of intel – what Randy Kramer called a rumor, I was very happy. Here are the time points from last night where you can hear Randy talk about it. It seems Corey Goode’s ‘gaff’ that got them thrown into a Mars jail and almost murdered and then rescued (further on in the testimony at the above site – good reading) was the linch pin that needed to be pulled to begin the awakening and then the revolt against the slavery system they had all been caught in since the 1960’s. I am quite joyful to hear this!

1:01:10 revolt amongst the colonists

1:02:04 we make good stuff – other species like it

1:03:06 natural disasters/industrial accidents caused by insurgents that had heard the ‘rumor’ that we

That rumor being started by Corey Goode while he and Gonzales were touring the manufacturing colony…”TEXAS!”

1:03:24 were NOT all dead on earth

1:04:19 we are told there is no life there, on Mars and they are told we are all dead here and earth is unlivable to DIVIDE AND CONQUER so that the controllers of each sphere have more control and we stay obedient.

1:16:35 Randy begins to explain the current uprising amongst the colonists/slaves/prisoners after they found out that the earth wasn’t really ruined. Gov’t fractionalized tending towards full on rebellion.

Listen here

I do expect that some time here in the next couple of months that we will begin our own rebellion, that when the elections collapse – which I fully expect them to, and the data dumps that are happening begin to be fully disseminated to the American public for exactly what they are telling us – what has really been going on, that we just might wake up enough to start our own rebellion against the power mongers on this planet. I am taking the Mars colonies as a model for how it will happen here. We cannot be helped until we help ourselves, and we cannot help ourselves until we want to, and we will not want to until we begin to see what has been going on here for the last 5,000 years (far beyond that but the last 5,000 years will do).

We really are at that tippy top point where we are teetering on the brink of a new direction. Let’s hope we can do this and do it well, with the least amount of damage and the greatest amount of open heartedness and the most stable equilibrium we can muster.

But let’s


On being HuMan

Recently it has been confusing to write. The only thing ever to come out of me has been about my own experiences or opinions. I can only say what I have realized or observed. You all know I don’t have a formal educational scrap of paper making me ‘certified’ in any scholastic discipline. No biggie. But I’m a really opinionated personality. Probably because I say things out of hand – without any ‘recognized experience’ in the field to back it up. But I still write it out and offer it up. And… holy cow, I have people who read it!

What has been going on in my inner world is a new mini upgrade of perspective. This change was contingent upon emotional growth. The kind where you learn more about yourself and then get to see the world just a bit differently. Personally I find this type of growth uncomfortable because it always involves confusion, an upwelling of emotion and the removal of an increment of the blinders we all have. I used to use all sorts of avoidance tactics back in the day, and always after I went there, realized that most of the pain I was feeling was from my own resistance to just look.

It has gotten much easier the older I have gotten – but I still sometimes need a cattle prod to move.

This time the transition has been easier due to the influence of some people in my life who understand. Also the influence of some people who are incredibly gifted at readings. And – a group of people of like mind because they have managed to open my windows by gifting me with information.

I am so, so spoiled! 🙂

Today I listened to an UPARS lecture by Laurie McDonald. that was beyond excellent. She is a researcher in the abductions field. YOU MUST GO WATCH THIS. She breaks down the interaction field between us in the 3D sensory box and communications that are happening just outside this damned quantum box limiting most of us to ONLY 3D! I was planning to write an article on how you control an entire planet of people who innately have the ability to shift awareness and perspective and be aware of their connections to all space and time – IE who are naturally multidimensional (that would be us).

The answer to that is with Poison. Two kinds of it. What is that poison?

These last two weeks, listening to the Jimmy Church radio program ‘Fade to Black’ presented multiple answers to this. The first part of that answer is to use religion. Ralph Ellis ( Monday – “King of Judea” and the next Monday part 2 ) has presented a very clear picture of how not only religion – but religion stated as history was cleverly used to point us in the wrong direction for at least 2000 years. How one ET faction (reptilian IMO) who represented Rome not only rewrote history, but fabricated not only one, but THREE religious factions and made sure it replicated throughout the earth like a virus, to set man against man. Not only that the Rome contingent then went skillfully about eradicating and any and all vestiges of any belief system that encouraged innate wisdom from within throughout the last 2000 years, torturing, defaming and even creating fearful images around our own recognitions of who we were, and when that didn’t work , infiltrating and skewing this knowledge anyway they could. Even the Law of one mentions this happening from the last civilization round during Atlantis and then into the great migration into Egypt, which carried on into the (tut) Moses exodus out of Egypt and became manifest in the very language of the ten commandments. We are still dealing with this underhanded sneaky skewing of our perceptions today.

And after this last two weeks, I am beginning to wonder if the Annunaki and the Law of One people are not connected. Why? Because Law of One talks about Thoth being one of them. One of the connection factors for me was the grand horoscope connection that came from Egypt into Persia into Rome and the EU all from the “Gnostic/Nazarene’ connection. We will have Ralph Ellis back next Monday May 2nd for this third part, and it is my guess he will link these up. Ralph, by the way does ALL the research needed to verify everything he says in the “approved” academic mode. He has dared to think out of the box and brought many treasures of information forward and put them where they need to be in The-Story-Of-Us.

In between Mr. Ellis, on the same radio show, Fade to Black, we then had very relevant information on the second type of poison being used to control us – a natural race of beings innate in multidimensional existence. WHAT, you might ask is that? It the physical component to the nonphysical one. Chemtrail, Vaccination and GMO’s and last, but not least, money. I hate focusing on the low level slimy criminal part of all this. There are enough people out there doing it with far greater passion and information than I have. Go look. But the point is, it’s much harder to hangout in the fun part of yourself, when the physical part of yourself feels so absolutely rotten! It’s like trying to get through the rest of the movie when you have to pee.

And ok, back around the UPARS video of Laurie McDonald. This woman is brilliant. She is connected with FREE and also has several networks and a business around helping people with the Contactee/Abductee syndrome. And yes I say syndrome because it is wide spread enough in the population to be a syndrome. Worldwide, there have been 280,000,000 (million) reported abductions. She goes into detail about the types of interaction and makes great sense about it.

Her categories are:

  1. Abduction: of the body only
  2. Channelers: a co-mingling of minds – like a medium, where you get out of the way and allow the takeover of the body so the ET/ED can use your vocal cords to speak
  3. Contactees: mind/body, face to face eye to eye at your kitchen table type encounters plus downloaded information
  4. Telepathic: Human initiated contact.

In all this her message and question for us is: How much of the phenomena is playing us – manipulating us? It is where I have been for the last year or so, because I have always had the type four experience. Which, now, is very hard to trust. It takes an empath to do this also because this type of contact requires you to ‘feel’ your way into it. Which is exactly what I have done since I was 5 or so.

Good question – this who is playing whom because it seems that EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE FREAKING UNIVERSE IS MULTIDIMENSIONALLY AWARE BUT US!!! Can we say easy pick’ins??? But, she describes us thusly:


We are HuMans:

Hu = light (which is a word we use for color densities – intensities)

Man = manifestation

We. Are. Light In. Manifestation.


This is all about our MIND/BODY relationship with the environment. So how do you keep us trapped???

Poison our Minds/Poison our bodies.

This is why it’s taken me a bit to get it together here and write to you all. I had to open my eyes just a little wider and as always, part of me was hanging behind. But here it is. Next Monday with Ralph Ellis on Fade to Black should prove to be the icing on the cake, in my books.

The bottom of the rabbit whole is endless…

Ronny McMullen said that last night on the air and it was like a bullet between my eyes! After listening to Dr. Greer answer Jimmy’s last question, keeping in mind Richard Dolan’s Brilliant information on the ‘Truth Embargo’, thinking about LMH’s information about all the shenanigans and her tireless effort to inform the public of it, thinking of CG and DW and everybody’s research all the way back to Menger, Adamski and Van Tassell – remembering that Greer said: We could have had this all solved back in the 1950’s (and he was right); the rabbit hole IS endless.

problemseinsteinI spent the last couple of days being very quiet both on the Internet and Twitter . It’s not that I haven’t been there, it is that I have been trying to listen deeper – looking for some sort of relevance . Looking for a way out of the rabbit hole . I’m very tired of being lied to, running on a wild goose chase, down ever more convoluted, tunnels in the proverbial rabbit hole . When Ronnie said last night that there is no bottom to this rabbit hole, and I have known for some time that all of the different rabbit holes are all connected, it made me pause and ask where is my thinking wrong here . Yes we need to know about all of these things. Yes we need to find solutions for them. But wasn’t it Einstein that said, “You cannot solve the current problems at the level of thinking they were created in?” So that implies that what you’re looking at is not exactly wrong but the way that you were looking at it is not being productive. Sort of like the parable of the three blind men where we are only using one sense to look at a situation that takes all of our abilities and senses to solve.

My thought was, that maybe we don’t have to come out of the fishbowl to see what’s around us? So I asked myself, “What is this thing that we generally discount, have been taught not to notice and function with on a daily basis that we all implicitly have, which would extend our ability to know the situation around us?”

My answer to that is: EMPATHY.

Being taught that empathy is a characteristic of a weak mind was the first mistake – and the final slamming of the door on our ability to maintain trust and honesty with each other. It created the ability to get away with bad behaviors and lies and a general confusion about how to run in the ‘world’. It cut us off from our whole selves and the awarenesses of the great ‘US’, with scalpel like precision. This is the spiritual truth that they keep from us – this rending of our being.

THIS is the veil destroying one pointed answer that will crash the entire matrix of lies.


Everybody has a piece of the puzzle – all our best researchers are right. All the divide and conquer bull shit is nothing more than more pieces of the puzzle. The deeper the rabbit hole, the longer we run around in it, the harder it will be to find the one hidden gem – the philosopher’s stone that will illuminate the entire morass and gel it into a whole picture. The idea is,  that it is time to emerge from the rabbit hole.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THEY HAVE HIDDEN FROM US IS EMPATHY. The ability to SENSE the living energy in every last little piece of creation and know that it is intelligent, aware and is a part of YOU! Empathy is what informs the greater US of this.

I’m going to say something crazy.

I think we’re all empaths.

I believe that being an empath is actually our natural state of being.

Most of us have lost touch with our abilities to tune into the feelings of others. Why? Because most of us have lost touch with our ability to tune into the feelings of ourselves. Whether through our highly materialized, fast-paced, artificial societies; our long-held dogmas, traditions, beliefs and inner narratives; our physical and emotional diets; our lifestyle habits, or simply our belief that “everything we feel comes directly from us,” we have been severely desensitized in life.

We have become essentially “sensitivity maimed.”

We have become emotional illiterates.

We are truly, in the most extreme sense, out-of-touch with ourselves.

And so it’s no wonder that when we experience some kind of spiritual awakening – when we finally awaken from our “sleep” and experience a shift in consciousness – we become overwhelmed with not only our ability to understand and feel our own feelings, but our ability to do likewise with others and their feelings. For some this descends as a tidal wave, for others, a gentle but increasing storm. <>

According to knowledge that has survived the test of time and several wars, the Incan civilization was aware of this trait prevalent in empaths.

According to Incan view of the world, there was a concept known as living energy or KawsayPacha. Meaning, they viewed the nature as a living and responsive entity and a part of the larger cosmos, which is a vibrating field of pure energy.

Incans used to believe that the world they were born into was just as conscious and aware of its existence as we are. And that every living thing is capable of experiencing the energy emitted from another living thing, just as it was its own.

The people born with this ability were considered to be blessed because it allowed them to effortlessly cultivate a soulful connection with all forms of living energies that exist in nature.

They would learn to harmonize their existence with their surroundings and energetic reciprocity called Ayni, which according to their belief exists within all living creatures.

When the living energies of two entities, such as humans, animals and plants, interact with each other, the different energies collide and create confusion.

Empaths were the few who were able to differentiate between various forms of energy, whether it was a completely similar frequency or opposing energy. This understanding would allow them to harmonize the energetic encounter of living forces. From <>


Ho’oponoponoThe point is that were we aware that we are very connected, the matrix of lies used to keep us separate, that start wars and promote hatred and allow humans to perpetrate crimes against each other and nature would crumble into dust. We would become:


“I’m sorry. Please forgive me. I love you. Thank you.

Humanity, we are sorry. Please forgive us. We love you. Thank you.

Mother Earth, we are sorry. Please forgive us. We love you. Thank you.

To the animal kingdom, we are sorry. Please forgive us. We love you. Thank you.

To all of the plants and trees, we are sorry. Please forgive us. We love you. Thank you.

To all sentient beings we have not mentioned, we are sorry. Please forgive us. We love you. Thank you.

To the benevolent beings of all reaches of the universe, we are sorry. Please forgive us. We love you. Thank you.

And once we remembered…

Conversations with a group heart/mind on disclosure and the world as it is.

I am blessed to know these people who speak through one name, although they are separate bodies and separate people but not separate hearts and minds. So, I asked to share this because I knew the answer would be a precious gem of wisdom. Now I share it with you – having permission to do so. If you were from off planet, would you see us this way?

Alison Bell Have you heard this? I am curious of your thoughts, if you have.

ROSWELL-Interview with an Alien-PART ONE In July 1947 the Roswell Army Air Field issued a press release stating personnel from the field’s 509th Bomb Group recovered a crashed “flying disc” from a r…

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Alison Bell it sounds very close to the blue Avians, and the law of one. Hmmmm

Maia Dalma My initial impression is that the material is authentic. It will take 1 hour and fifty minutes to listen to the entire presentation. No one goes to these lengths to hoax an unknown audience. There are many aspects of disclosure that have already taken place. Telepathy is difficult to interpret for the novice. She was a natural, it would appear. We will talk after I listen to it?

Maia Dalma Two stars. Zeta Reticuli one and two.

Alison Bell It gets even deeper. Only if you have the time to do it. There are 2 more of equal length. On second one now. Sounds similar to some of the things you have said. This is circa 1950’s I am curious b/c it has 2 other sources that are similar plus things you have said… Round file correspondences

Maia Dalma We have the primer. So it is easier for us. We also have Tegan. What we do not know or understand, she does. It is a lexicon of idea. A form of communication we are very familiar with. Interesting. Crossover. Cindy will want to hear this.

Alison Bell I kinda thot maybe so. This history out lined in tape 2, I do not know enough to ascertain. It is interesting.

Maia Dalma The Domain. We are familiar with it. We have had interaction with this species several times in the past. The Tall Whites are the ones we worry about. This species are not atheists as humans define the term. This planet is the Jewel in Heaven’s Crown. It was meant as a way station. A paradise among the stars.

Alison Bell That I do know, about the planet. As to the beings, I do not know. I was shown/told when I was 12 or so that the note frequency of this planet is love. That is its ultimate destiny. Imagine that…grin

Maia Dalma

The future of this planet is such that all individual consciousnesses must incarnate here at least once. It is the most densely physical existence in the Universe. Human beings have become convinced that they are merely mortal. Belief in death is the singular reason why. It is what humanity worships. Not God. Death. If humanity worshipped Love, the world would be much different. This question has been asked and answered. In this exchange. “This is their question? You jest. What is ‘death’ to us? Do they not know death so well that they each have come to worship it? They rarely talk about it. But they all believe in it and ponder it in all their waking moments… in all and everything they build and share. And what they believe pollutes almost all the things they hold as ‘true.’ Death makes meaningless most, if not all the things they dream. There is nothing they have created as a species that does not have the stink of death upon it the moment it is formed…. It is not this way in Creation, Syndia. We both know this. I will do as you ask. Share it? As you wish… In their world of illusions, they believe death is their King. They speak of karma and reincarnation, death and dissolution, as though they each ‘know’ of these ‘truths’ personally… But what do they truly ‘know?’ Their ‘beliefs’ are as mistaken as their ‘truths.’ Enlightenment has not changed them. For what they ‘think’ they know is the basis of a deception they have built their world upon. Look around it and dispute this with me… That would be an interesting argument…yes?

Is it not anything more than a nightmare made and shared by a Child of Creation? A dream they do not yet know Creation does not share….and what is death to us? You would have me tell them this? What is death to a culture or civilization that does not believe in it? What does ‘our’ Creator ‘know’ of death?’ This should evoke a thought or two… If nothing more…the question is fair enough. We know what they believe. They live their ‘truths.’ As do each of us. And since they invite so much of it…and believe so deeply in it… perhaps a different perspective will help them better understand ‘their truth.’ Death means so much to them. And they serve it so well. Were that Life were true instead. So yes. Perhaps it is this way. To us, death has no meaning. Since the past and the future do not really exist, the idea of birth into a body means nothing to us, either once or many times. To us, death is but the central dream from which all illusions in this world stem. Is it not madness to think of life as being born, aging, losing vitality, and dying in the end? This question has been asked in many ways in many different times…by every Child of God. It is a question human consciousness asks in every culture. In every language. It is one of the questions that unite your species. The question is always the same, but the answers depend on what each ‘individual’ awareness believes.

But now it seems we need to consider all of this more carefully in light of the subject you ask me to explain. In the universe your species knows, death is the one fixed, unchangeable belief of the world that all things in it are born only to die. This is regarded by your species as “the way of nature,” not to be raised to question, but to be accepted as the “natural” law of life. The cyclical, the changing and unsure; the undependable and the unsteady, waxing and waning in a certain way upon a certain path,–all this is taken as the nature of creation. And not one of you ever asks if a benign Creator could demand this of His Children. Each of you ‘think’ it. But not one of you ask it. Tell us this is not so. In this world’s perception of the universe as God created it, it would be impossible to think of a Creator as loving. For a Creator who has decreed that all things pass away, ending in dust and disappointment and despair, can but be feared.

Creation holds your little lives in Its hand but by a thread, ready to break it off without regret or care, perhaps today… Or if it waits… yet is the ending certain. Who loves such a god, who believes in such a creator, knows not of love, because in his mind he has denied that life is real, though in his heart he hopes that life is eternal. Death has become life’s symbol in this world. The world you know is nothing but a battleground, where contradiction reigns and opposites make endless war.

Where there is death in any culture is peace impossible. Because war and conflict are the idols human beings create and worship in bondage to it To us, death is your symbol of the fear of God. Creation’s Love is blotted out in the idea, which holds it from your awareness like a shield held up to obscure the sun. The grimness of the symbol you create is enough to show it cannot coexist with Creation. It holds an image of the Child of God in which he is “laid to rest” in devastation’s arms, where worms wait to greet him and to last a little while by his destruction. Yet the worms as well are doomed to be destroyed as certainly. And so do all things live because of death.

Devouring is what you have described as nature’s “law of life.” Your God is insane, and fear alone is real. This is your world. This is homo sapien-sapien. This is his belief system. The curious belief that there is part of dying things that may go on apart from what will die, does not proclaim a loving Creator, nor establish any grounds for trust. Your belief in what is real in this world tells us what your belief about all of Creation truly is.

If death is real for anything, there is no life. Death denies life. But if there is reality in creation, in life; death is and must be denied. No compromise in this is possible. There is either a god of fear or One of Love. The world attempts a thousand compromises, and will attempt a thousand more. Not one can be acceptable to us, because not one could be acceptable to Creation.

The Creator did not make death because Creation did not make fear. You did. Both are equally meaningless in Creation. The “reality” of death is firmly rooted in your specie’s belief that the Child of Creation is a body. And if your ‘god’ created bodies, death would indeed be real. But Creation would not be loving. Would it? There is no point at which the contrast between the perceptions of the Universe and that of your world of illusions becomes more sharply evident.

If ‘death’ be real, then death is indeed the death of all creation, if the ‘god’ you worship is in ‘truth’ a god. And so all of His Own creations must stand in fear of Him. He is not ‘your’ Father, but becomes ‘your’ destroyer. He is not ‘your’ Creator, but becomes ‘your’ avenger. Terrible are His Thoughts and fearful is His image. To look on His creations is to one day die and ‘know’ death. This is humanity’s great self-deception. Has it not been said that, “And the last to be overcome will be death?”

Your species worships the teacher, and yet as a species, it rejects His teachings. Without your idea of death there is no world. All your dreams must end with this one. This is the final goal; the end of all illusions. And in death are all illusions born. What can be born of death and still have life? But what is born of Creation and still can die? The inconsistencies, the compromises and the rituals your world fosters in its vain attempts to cling to death and yet to think love real are mindless magic, ineffectual and meaningless.

Creation is, and in Creation all created things must be eternal. Do you not see that otherwise Creation has an opposite, and fear would be as real as love? The central idea in all of humanity’s various faiths, which are all predicated on the eternal nature of Creation could be stated thus: Accept no compromise in which death plays a part. Do not believe in cruelty, nor let attack conceal the truth of Creation from you. What seems to die has but been misperceived and carried to illusion. To the teachers of these faiths, it becomes their task to let the all of humanity’s illusions be carried to the truth. But what is that truth? Each of them says ‘Be steadfast but in this one thing; be not deceived by the seeming “reality” of any changing form.

Creation is Eternal. It does not end. It has no end. And each of those faiths teach that ‘Truth neither moves nor wavers nor sinks down to death and dissolution.’ So what is the end of death? Nothing but this; the realization that the Child of God is guiltless now and forever. For nothing but this is true. But each of you, and as a species, have forgot that it is not less than this. When your species abandons its worship of the illusion of death, it will know peace. And each of you will see how the world ‘worships’ nothing but death. In all the many forms it takes for all of humanity many forms, the reality is simply that what you each give power, will in fact have the power you give it…. Change this dream, and you can and will change your world. This is the Creator we know…the God we love…and the child’s dream of death is but a dream from which we ourselves have awakened.

Alison Bell

Holy cow. See why I said it is similar to what I have heard from you all? The question remains as to how you awaken from the prison which repeats the lie over and over, and every model you see promotes the truth of the lie. Nature is. It demonstrates this truth. The truth of death. Until humanity can perceive beyond the physical eye it will never understand. Because the rest of ALL the information is untrue. Truly it is a prison. We have the contrast of what we live versus what we are told.

Omg. How would you relate the reality of your writing in its truth to who we have become? So that is it recognized as more than another pretty idea? Recognized as truth….instead


Maia Dalma Why do we think alien society will be as messed up as ours, Alison. If we don’t grow up as a species, our children won’t.

Maia Dalma We have finished reviewing the videos. We all agree. They are authentic.

Alison Bell My thoughts also. Will be starting the third video in an hour It interweaves with so many other pieces of information. Many correlations.


Maia Dalma  It explains a great deal. Is-be. We understand. Interesting nomenclature. This was also a past exchange. We have explained this simply once before. We will attempt to explain this again. We understand your questions. We also understand their impatience. Actions must take place in time. It is but a simple process all awareness must follow.

Our loyalty to humanity is presently important only to us. You know this. This must change, slowly at first, but it must change. Failing this, one may reasonably expect chaos and confusion as the event horizon unfolds. We have humbly asked you to share what each of you have learned with them. Nothing more. A candle loses nothing of its power in lighting another. We are grateful for the love each of you carry. We ask only that you share it. Creation will do the rest.

We understand the predicament each of you feels you are in. Your role in this event will be revealed in time. We simply ask you to trust us. You have great reason to do so and we are indebted to you for your faith in us. Each of you speak a common tongue beyond the many that they use. We are also truly grateful for this. We know well the time it took for each of you to learn the language that you share.

Humanity speaks only in words. And strictly speaking, words play no part in the task we have set before each of you. The deciding factor for us in our choice was always your prayers for peace, but as each of you have learned, asking is not the same as answering, nor is wanting the same as having. We will promise again. What each of you have asked for, each of you will receive. This is our debt. This is our promise.

They have not yet learned to wield the power of Spirit. Their individual understandings of this power are vastly different. They each know of it, but the conflict that rages now is for their understanding, not their confusion. In our deliberations, we gently refer to the prayers of your hearts, not to the Word your people use in praying. Sometimes humanity’s words and the prayers it makes are contradictory; sometimes they agree. Yours are never so. It does not matter.

We do not understand their words, for they were all made by separated minds to keep them safe in their illusions of separation. Words can be helpful, yes, particularly for the awakened, in helping concentration and facilitating the exclusion, or at least the control, of extraneous thoughts. But we ask you again to remind us not forget that their words are but symbols of symbols. And as such, they are thus twice removed from reality. It presents interesting challenges to us. As we know it must for you.

As symbols, their words make very specific references. We understand this. We also know your people understand this. And they are, for the most part, vastly different in interpretations. Even when theirs seem most abstract, the pictures that they conjure in their illusions and the images that come to mind are apt to be very concrete. Unless a specific referent does occur to their minds in conjunction with a specific word, the word has little or no practical meaning to us, and thus cannot help this process. We know each of you knows this.

Their prayers of the heart do not really ask for concrete things. They always seem to request some kind of experience, the most specific thing asked for being the appearance of the ‘bringers of the desired experience’ in the opinion of the asker. The words, then, are merely symbols for the things they ask for, but the things themselves…they but stand for the experiences that are hoped for. Their individual prayers for all the things of this world will but bring the experiences of this world to them. This is Creation’s way.

What the prayers of their hearts asks for… this… this will be given because this is all they have decided would be received. It is impossible then that the prayer of the heart remain unanswered in the perception of the one who asks. Be it one, or many. This, too, is Creation’s way.

If any of them but asks for the impossible, if he wants what does not exist or seeks for illusions in his heart, all this will become his own. The power of his decision will offer it to him as he so requests. Herein lies their collective Heaven… or their individual hells.

Your people learned this a very long time ago. You have not forgotten this. The time has come for them to remember who they really are. Do you not agree? Yes. It will appear to humanity that the world they know is ending. In truth, it was over before it began. The sleeping Child of God has but this power left to him. It is enough. His words do not matter. Only the Word of God, the Spirit in each of them, has any meaning, because it symbolizes that which has no human symbols at all.

We know your people understand this as well. And you are all beloved in Creation because of this. And we know also that Spirit alone understands what this Word stands for. And this, too, is enough for us to believe in you. Nothing else truly matters. Have we answered your questions? Yes. We have. And we are grateful this is so. Be at peace. All shall be revealed. In time

The Roswell Alien Interview : the information cycle

I have been struck by the similarities of old and new information lately and the cyclic re-emergence of all of it.

I have run across the book: Alien Interview By Matilda O’Donnell Macelroy.  The material in this book sounds like The Law of 1, the Bailey books, plus the Emerald Tablets of Thoth. It also sounds like the Blue Avians message. It also reminds me of the messages of the old-guys – Adamski, Menger, and VanTassell, (1) and what they wrote about the space bother’s message. I find that really, in whatever form it has come to earth, the message that was delivered to the populace of the world has been, for 70 years, about Love. Loving the earth loving each other, loving the animals…  This is also true when I connect telepathically with those that are trying to help the earth, the ET/ED/IE’s. But here’s the thing –

I find the groups popping up to promote meditation, world peace, disclosure, difficult – I always have – due to the regimented ideas that tend to form around them. Sooner or later it will or can be used to create division. This trend may be used against all of us in the future to once again derail any obvious push toward unity and disclosure. And working with this idea as it applies across the board:

Truth is a subjective observation of the apprehended idea, recorded from the point of view of a perceiver.

This means that reality and truth are a mobile facile thing, constantly changing for all of us. Only in 3D is there something that could be construed as absolute. Since everything we want is outside of the realm of 3D the term absolute becomes totally meaningless as applied to all our perceptions. We know that even in a shared ET contact event, where we are all looking at the same thing, the message/understanding will have many differences as people.

So I guess I have been asking the question of late how do we bring unity to a populace where free will must operate in and every perception has a variation on the truth that is equally as valid as the next one???


Because it seems it’s going to roll out to be this – not the question of if there are other beings out there and in here, but about the communal perception without breaching the code of freewill, and without creating more head butting and gnashing of teeth…. Sheesh!

In Alien Interview Airl (the alien) talks about history – what we would like to look at as a string of events in chronological order that are TRUTH:

“Before you can understand the subject of history, you must first understand the subject of time. Time is simply an arbitrary measurement of the motion of objects through space. Space is not linear. Space is determined by the point of view of an IS-BE when viewing a object. The distance between an IS-BE and the object being viewed is called “space”. Objects, or energy masses, in space do not necessarily move in a linear fashion. In this universe, objects tend to move randomly or in a curving or cyclical pattern, or as determined by agreed upon rules.

History is not only a linear record of events, as many authors of Earth history books imply, because it is not a string that can be stretched out and marked like a measuring tool. History is a subjective observation of the movement of objects through space, recorded from the point of view of a survivor, rather than of those who succumbed. Events occur interactively and concurrently, just as the biological body has a heart that pumps blood, while the lungs provide oxygen to the cells, which reproduce, using energy from the sun and chemicals from plants, at the same time as the liver strains toxic wastes from the blood, and eliminates them through the bladder and the bowels. All of these interactions are concurrent and simultaneous. Although time runs consecutively, events do not happen in an independent, linear stream. In order to view and understand the history or reality of the past, one must view all events as part of an interactive whole. Time can also be sensed as a vibration which is uniform throughout the entire physical universe. Airl’s definition of an IS-BE:

“Personally, it is my conviction that all sentient beings are immortal spiritual beings. This includes human beings. For the sake of accuracy and simplicity I will use a made-up word: “IS-BE”. Because the primary nature of an immortal being is that they live in a timeless state of “is”, and the only reason for their existence is that they decide to “be”.

These two excerpts match the mystery school teachings of what a spiritually advanced ‘spirit’ would be and could do. They are talked about in the Bailey books of theosophy, the Emerald Tablets of Thoth, the Law of 1, and just about any other tradition that has come up through the centuries.

There are several correspondences with the grey alien archetype in Airl’s description of the type of body she ‘uses’, how it works and how it is hooked into the craft that she flew. The grey bodies we all see in many different contexts are constructs that allow an intelligence to either operate in 3D, or interface in 3D. They are as common as cell phones, and each race has their own tweaks in them according to their own necessities. Our fledgling understanding of this began with the Montauk chair developed in the 60’s that was used to allow us to interface with ET tech that was recovered at Roswell and has grown exponentially since then.

In her brief summary of history in our solar system she introduces us to the ‘Old Empire’ and the newer ‘Domain’ of which she said she was a part of. ( remind anybody of Star Wars?) This dovetails nicely with David Wilcock and Corey Goode’s information and what the Law of 1 teaches of our history. The only thing that doesn’t are the time lines. LO1 talks in thousands and millions of years, Airl talks in trillions and billions of years.

What is interesting to me is how information – truths and data are brought out, judged, talked about vetted or not, debunked and then slide back under the conscious awareness of the consensus for 60-70 years and then pop back up with even more correspondences, more parallels and yet a deeper understanding. If the last 70 years has taught us anything, it is that, as information lives through its cycles in time (time being what it is – a point of view) as it comes back around to prominence it will be with a deeper understanding of it, a wider acceptability and exponentially more correlation points. The one thing we all must do is determine the voracity (truth as we see it) of such story and data in discernment from our own perspectives and our own research. It is important to note how we receive this information and therefore what our actions become, we need to act from a place of sovereignty and not a place of reaction.

It is my feeling that we are approaching a second cycle – a re-emergence of some battered old truths that are up for re-examination – again – and it is time we looked in a different light, with a more opened, enlightened mind. Are we being taught just as we teach our children, where each yearly cycle of learning builds on the next and depends on the assimilation of the previous year to make sense?

Maybe if we could realize that our differences and our great similarities mean nothing to UNITY – that unity is all inclusive, not divisional or separatist, it might be a nice first step.

To listen to the entire book go  HERE

foot note


George Adamski (April 17, 1891—April 23, 1965) was a Polish American citizen who became widely known in ufology circles, and to some degree in popular culture, after he claimed to have photographed spaceships from other planets, met with friendly Nordic alien Space Brothers, and to have taken flights with them to the Moon and other planets. He was the first, and most famous, of the so-called contactees of the 1950s. Adamski called himself a “philosopher, teacher, student and saucer researcher,” although most investigators concluded his claims were an elaborate hoax, and that Adamski himself was a con artist.[2]

Adamski authored three books describing his meetings with Nordic aliens and his travels with them aboard their spaceships: Flying Saucers Have Landed (co-written with Desmond Leslie) in 1953, Inside the Space Ships in 1955, and Flying Saucers Farewell in 1961. The first two books were both bestsellers; by 1960 they had sold a combined 200,000 copies.[3]

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Howard Menger (February 17, 1922 – February 25, 2009) was an American contactee who claimed to have met extraterrestrials throughout the course of his life, meetings which were the subject of books he wrote, such as From Outer Space To You and The High Bridge Incident. Menger, who rose to prominence as a charismatic contactee detailing his chats with friendly Adamski-style Venusian “space brothers” in the late 1950s, was accepted by some UFO believers. Menger later mentioned in a documentary that the space people he been contacted by had bases on Venus and other planets in the Solar System but he believed they lived somewhere else in the universe.[1]

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George Van Tassel started hosting group meditation in 1953 in a room underneath Giant Rock excavated by Frank Critzer, a prospector. That year, according to Van Tassel the occupant of a space ship from the planet Venus woke him up, invited him on board his space ship, and both verbally and telepathically gave him a technique for rejuvenating the human body. In 1954, Van Tassel and others began building what they called the “Integratron” to perform the rejuvenation. According to Van Tassel, the Integratron was to be a structure for scientific research into time, anti-gravity and at extending human life, built partially upon the research of Nikola Tesla and Georges Lakhovsky

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